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Simon Gilles CPG sent me a letter recently so insightful I thought it ought to be shared with the PG community. Quite often, as my old friend David Darke would say, “less is more.”

DOES SIZE REALLY MATTER?
by Simon Gilles

Dear Mark,

I really enjoyed Post #483 and wanted to share a few thoughts with you about my experience with the smaller System pipes.  I believe these pipes have specific characteristics that affect the way they are smoked. But before doing so, I should mention that I have “classic” pipes of small size that are atrocious to smoke, and giant ones that give me an exceptional experience.

My lightweights include a Deluxe 8s, a pair of 313 (the one on the right belonged to my dad and is from the 80s, a ’74 sandblasted 20s, and a grade 0 MIE 314.

As far as Peterson Systems go, I smoke as many small pipes (shapes 8, 20) as medium ones (shapes 4, 9, 14) and large ones (Pub and 140th Anniversary), but over the years I’ve come to realise that smoking small pipes is more enjoyable than smoking very large ones (yet without denigrating the latter and taking them out of my rotation).

My middle-weight brawlers include a Deluxe CP 2s, a modified ’84 Premier system 309, a Deluxe 14B and a Deluxe 9B.

First, small Systems are easier to stuff (at least for me). The adage “less is more” really comes into its own here, as I’ve often found myself overloading large bowls, trying to fill them up at all costs (which is very satisfying, admittedly) but which turned out to be detrimental to the smoking process. As I prefer flake tobacco, which need more space to flourish than conventional cuts, small bowls seem easier to fill correctly.

Also, the moisture from combustion in a small System doesn’t have time to settle in the bottom of the bowl and make the tobacco difficult to smoke. So much is this the case for me that I’m thinking of testing the double-curing method by preparing the last third of my pipe a few hours before the rest of my tobacco. That way the base will be much drier, and when it is loaded with moisture during smoking, layer will take on a hygrometry close to that of burning tobacco.

Lighter, these small Systems are also more comfortable to hold in the mouth for long periods, which contributes to a longer smoking time, and therefore once again making them perfect for smoking flakes.

My heavyweights are a smooth 140th Anniversary and a modified Pub pipe.

Finally, I get the satisfaction of smoking the entire pipe when I smoke a small System, something I can’t do in one go with XXL models–I would love to, actually, but I have two young daughters to look after!

 

 

 

… and sometimes more is MORE.

Jonathon Estes CPG sent pix of his recent acquisition, one of my all-time favorite pipes, the rare first iteration of the Hand Made House Pipe from the 1980s (see Post #407):

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Jonathan wrote, “It was a little rougher in person but with a little elbow grease, an extra dose of patience, and maybe a glass or two of Irish whiskey, I think it turned out quite well. I’ve attached a couple of initial before and afters pics. Here’s to celebrating another Peterson restored, one pipe at a time!”
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I’d say he did a great job–
 I wonder what brand of Irish whiskey he drinks?
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The Pete Geeks will bring down the LVIPS this year.
If you plan on attending,
be sure to visit the PG Haberdashery
for your obligatory shillelagh, flat cap, black leather kilt and flask.
Bagpipes optional.

 

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Sébastien Canévet
Sébastien Canévet
3 months ago

An important question, indeed, and one that deserves careful thought.

Scott Forrest
Scott Forrest
3 months ago

I can’t wait to see the tintacker. I think it’s about time to change the man-cave from ‘Cowboys and Astros’ to Peterson.

Martin
Martin
3 months ago

Very nice Sunday read thanks for sharing. Nice point here with the smaller system Pipes.
I do enjoy shape 314 a lot lately because they lightweight and my beloved B42 are getting very
heavy over time. And if You extra excited you can fill it up again and smoke back to back because It is a System.

Erik R
Erik R
3 months ago

My theory is the size thing is more an issue with newer smokers who just assume bigger is better. Little do they know there is a certain joy to be had from making the small bowl last. Sit down, relax, and savor the process because If it was just nicotine we were chasing, we would all be smoking those dirty gross cigarettes.

Clint Stacey
Clint Stacey
3 months ago

A really enjoyable read. When I first entered ‘the pipe world’ I did wonder what the point of small pipes was. Some interesting and well made points here. Wonderful job on that hand made!

Serge Pongin
Serge Pongin
3 months ago

Serge

Evan S
Evan S
3 months ago

Since the whole pipeful isn’t burning at once, the depth of the bowl always seemed almost irrelevant to me; notwithstanding the amount of tobacco one wants to stuff and smoke.
While I reckon having more tobacco for smoke to filter through changes the experience, the diameter of the bowl seems to be where all the action is. I can only speculate the increasing surface area of a larger diameter bowl leads to quicker burn.
It’s always a bit shocking to see how fast a large Sherlock Holmes can burn through, yet a trusty 309 can last all evening!

Chuck P
Chuck P
3 months ago
Reply to  Evan S

I think you may be right. You can push a wider bowl with thick walls more which makes it easier to keep lit.

Chuck P
Chuck P
3 months ago

I smoke a lot of virginia leaf and to me it always seems to behave a bit better in a taller bowl. Also the more briar the better to keep things well insulated. Anyway I enjoyed reading this while smoking my House Pipe, is that irony or the other one? lol

Simon
Simon
3 months ago
Reply to  Chuck P

The picture in the article is depicting me smoking a House pipe too 😉

Chuck P
Chuck P
3 months ago
Reply to  Simon

It’s a great looking one! I don’t think I’ve ever seen a spigot one in the wild. Does it have a P Lip?

Simon
Simon
3 months ago
Reply to  Chuck P

It would have been awesome with a Plip but it’s a fishtail

Gary Hamilton
Gary Hamilton
3 months ago

Hello Simon, I really enjoyed your posting this morning, a most insightful read. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. By the way, that modified Pub pipe looks fantastic. I hope one day the powers that be at Peterson would consider offering the Pub pipe with a domed mount and spigot fitted stem…now that would be a pipe to behold.

Jonathan, fabulous restoration on that Hand Made House Pipe, nice work!

Hey Mark, The tintackers look great, now to figure out how to find some available wall space in which to properly display it.

Simon
Simon
3 months ago
Reply to  Gary Hamilton

Thank you very much Gary (and the others!) for your input, as I don’t have the writing style of Mark and other contributors, I was afraid that my text would be of no interest to other Pete Geeks.
My pub pipe was an Irish second with a fishtail stem, so i tried the one from my XL315 and it worked perfectly ! By the way, the stem from my 999 Newgrange and my XL11 Christmas spigot work too !

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Jonathon
Jonathon
3 months ago
Reply to  Gary Hamilton

Thank you, Gary! It was a fun undertaking!

James Walsh
James Walsh
3 months ago

Johnathan, fantastic work on the Hand Made! I remember seeing the listing and wasn’t sure about how the rim might turn out. I’m glad you were able to see the diamond in the rough. She’s a beauty brought back to life!

Jonathon
Jonathon
3 months ago
Reply to  James Walsh

Thanks James! That rim was an uphill battle but was glad to get through it in the end.

John H. Schantz Jr. CPG
John H. Schantz Jr. CPG
3 months ago

Simon Gilles CPG, Great ideas with drying the bottom tobacco more👍🏼 I have used some of my less favorite tobaccos somewhat in this way. I have several Tsuge pipes with the screw on bowls and aluminum bases, also a Falcon and a couple of old Kaywoodies and an Eriksen (which is designed to used the Keystones), all similarly designed. I have used my “less favorite” tobacco, dried nearly bone dry, as a “filter”/“soaker-upper?”, sacrificially, in the bases of these pipes, instead of say…a rolled up pipe cleaner (which sometimes catch a hot ember and char…not good😖), or Nording Keystones and… Read more »

Simon
Simon
3 months ago

Thank you for your kind reply John!
In fact, my goal is (for medium + to big bowls) to find a way to avoid super moist tobacco at the bottom of the bowl. I think that using the same tobacco but dryer will absorb moisture and reach a good hygrometry when it will start burning.
And i agree with you : System pipe don’t need extras (keystones or whatever).

I was fortunate to find what you call my pipe trifecta, but there are so many other nice Peterson pipes to find…

Jonathon
Jonathon
3 months ago

Thanks John, I appreciate it!

Nevaditude
Nevaditude
3 months ago

Wonderful post! LOVE the discussion of the various pipes I enjoy all of the variety but I do have several of certain Peterson System shapes that just are ‘it’ for me. AND those also vary in dimension as well. Thank you Simon great write-up! Jonathon, very nice work on the Hand made! The partial rusticating is wonderful & not enough Peterson pipes have it. In my view it is an older style that needs to return! 🤔 Ok Bishop I wonder the significance of the code spelled out in the symbols beneath the pictures & topic changes. My decoder ring… Read more »

Nevaditude
Nevaditude
3 months ago
Reply to  Mark Irwin

Excellent questions . Hmmm.. The main reason (in my goofball reply ) I went with math & not linguistics was the Chinese money, AND the burgeoning market there for all things pipe. THEN , I realized it was YEN, not Yuan & tossed that out 😝 Went out to the shop & fired up a St. Patrick’s Day 313 to enjoy 3 bowls of MacBaren Original Choice during the Jay’s & Mariners ⚾️ .Wonderful smoke. But Mark, MOSTLY,… since you occasionally hint at decoder usage, I wished to call you out 😝 AND to see if the Greek spoke to… Read more »

Jonathon
Jonathon
3 months ago
Reply to  Nevaditude

Thank you!

Erik Billing
Erik Billing
3 months ago

Great Article
I am hoping to get a Pub or House Pipe Soon they just Call to me as a shape!!

Martin K
Martin K
3 months ago

I am more selective about the amount of time I want to smoke the same blend and the width of the chamber when picking a size/style. Still love my big pipes for walks and evenings on the veranda, but when winter comes, I will shift to the smaller ones if I am not inside.

Rick Myerscough
Rick Myerscough
3 months ago

Fun discussion…

Brandon
Brandon
3 months ago

Great timing on this excellent piece. For years I almost exclusively smoked (and collected) the 317 shape. The past year I ventured out a bit and got a few larger pipes…302, 309, XL02…and have recently gone back to my 317, and with a newly acquired 313 spigot as well, remembered how well the smaller systems smoke. I am LOVING the 313, which makes me really excited for the PPN pipe.

Nevaditude
Nevaditude
3 months ago
Reply to  Brandon

Brandon, I fully agree with your sentiments about the 317 & 313.
incredible smokers. I also REALLY enjoy the 301. Well, I like pretty much all my Pete’s, but the small ones do smoke far better than most people think they will. In fact, yesterday, I smoke my smallest Pete, the 3085 with some GH&Co Kentucky Nougat. It was a glorious smoke & as I marveled, I pondered 🤔 “Why don’t I smoke THIS pipe more?” I resolved to make that change. Again, GREAT post.