I always find myself thinking of the classic 999 John Bull (pictured above) as typical of Kapp & Peterson’s house style with its short, beefy shank, chubby tapered mouthpiece and P-Lip. Unlike other iconic Peterson shapes, however, it seems unlikely that this one was an original. Collectors more knowledgeable than I know there were many English and French makers who also made a shape very like it, if not earlier, then at about the same time beginning in the 1920s or 30s.
A 1939 GBD 9239R (Courtesy Al Jones)
Al Jones has several favorites, including GBD’s 9242 and 9438, Comoy’s 499, and Sasieni’s Ashford. And if you play with the design a bit, you can come up with a number of variations and more than one name by which the shape is called. Many American pipemen call the 999 a rhodesian, although at BriarWorks they call it a bullmoose. But Greg Pease, perhaps thinking of Tracy Mincer’s Custombilt pipes, would say a bullmoose has a forward-jutting chin and is usually sporting a saddle bit.
For Pete Freeks there is fortunately away out of this etymological muddle: what has Peterson always called it? It usually just goes by its shape number, but when Peterson has given it a name, it’s always the same name: John Bull.
Note also that whenever the two shapes pictured above are named in the K&P ephemera—which is from 1947 to 1992—they’re always given the same names. Diamond-shank? Pete freeks, that’s a Rhodesian Bent. Round shank? John Bull. But while the song (or name) remains the same, the fact is the 999 pictured in the 1992 brochure illustration above was not the first nor even the second shape given this number, but the third. Thanks to Steve Dundish and his remarkable 999 collection, it’s finally possible to document all three shapes and shed a little light on the number’s history.
The first sighting in K&P ephemera occurs in the 1937 “Chat with A Smoker” pipe box brochure, which was printed at about the same time that K&P opened its London factory in the Bradley’s Buildings on White Lion Street. The thing to notice here is that this 999 is the classic fat beaded version Peterson later dubbed “John Bull,” the name (as Anglophiles know) being a metonym or personification of England, visually depicted, says Wikipedia as “a stout, middle-aged, country dwelling, jolly, matter-of-fact man.”
The 999’s entry into the Peterson catalog may not be just a coincidence, either. The London factory had just opened (as the book will explain in further detail) to manufacture pipes for the English market, and what more natural than to do than make sure Peterson has on offer a few fashionable English shapes?
The historians among us remember Ireland entered what its people called “the Emergency” on September 2, 1939—WWII—a state of crisis that continued until the Emergency Powers Acts was discontinued on the same day seven years later. We review the impact of this for Kapp & Peterson in the book, but what is interesting for the 999 is that between its first sighting in 1937 and its appearance just before international hostilities halted US imports in mid-1942, the shape had morphed from a John Bull into what appears to be a slightly-larger unbeaded shape, what everyone calls an “author.” Here it is in the George Yale 1942 catalog illustration you’ve seen in the blog before:
Thanks to Steve’s fascination with the 999, we can also now see two real-life Emergency-era 999s, a Captain Pete (top) and a nickel-banded Shamrock (bottom):
That both of these author 999s are from US Rogers Imports lines, and that the author version of the 999 isn’t seen in any Peterson ephemera outside the US, brings up some questions: did the factory make the shape exclusively for the US market (which may be the case with the 9BC and the 02BB)? Or did K&P or Rogers Imports change their minds about the shape after the war? I doubt we’ll ever know.
The Shamrock line, according to Rogers Imports Ltd. copyright information, seems to have been in production as early as 1938, while their Captain Pete line began c. 1940, giving a few time to get to the States. As the stamps reveal on Steve’s pipe (seconded by Gary Malmberg’s documented research), Captain Petes were not made solely by the London factory (contra Pipephil.eu).
“MADE IN IRELAND,” both Gary Malmberg and I agree, is what is typically found on the Rogers Imports pipes, rather than the “ÉIRE” stamp one would otherwise expect for these years.
Without handling several examples of a factory pipe made over a few decades, there’s no way one can really get a sense of true comparative sizes, which can vary by a few millimeters due to the nature of the wood, sanding, and production. Still, here are measurements comparing Steve’s 999 Shamrock Author with a classic 999 Shamrock John Bull:
999 Author 999 John Bull
Length: 5.31 in. / 135 mm. Length: 5.25 in. / 133 mm.
Bowl Height: 1.69 in. / 43 mm. Bowl Height: 1.63 in. / 41.38 mm.
Bowl Width: 1.5 in. / 38 mm. Bowl Width: 1.80 in. / 45.91 mm.
Chamber Width: 0.87 in. / 22 mm. Chamber Width: 0.70 in. / 17.88 mm
Chamber Depth: 1.25 in. / 31.75 mm. Chamber Depth: 1.30 in. / 33.10 mm.
Weight: 1.8 oz. / 50 gr Weight: 2.0 oz / 56 gr
There are three interesting things to note about Steve’s author Shamrock 999: first, the K & P maker’s mark in shields on the nickel band, which throughout Peterson’s history have typically been reserved for sterling mounts. Nickel bands and mounts typically were stamped with just the plain “K & P” maker’s mark. Second, Steve’s pipe has a P-Lip, while the George Yale has a very untypical fishtail.
The third thing I want to call your attention to is the tenon extension. Traditionally (if not during the Dublin Era), tenons and mouthpieces have been of great importance to Peterson. This one, while molded and not a bone screw-in, features the extended “chimney” so crucial to correct tenon-mortise airflow for the P-Lip mouthpiece. The graduated bore of the P-Lip as well as this extension makes the pipe a “sub-System” (as we call it in the book), which means that it will perform considerably better than a traditional fishtail. This type of molded extension goes all the way back to the original molded-stem Patent mouthpieces, incidentally, and doesn’t seem to have disappeared (alas!) from the Peterson workshop until the 1950s. This may have been due in part to the fashion of implanting stingers, and not merely to brand amnesia, but whatever the reason, it is unfortunate.
The author version of the 999 was never made again, and so remains the most elusive of the 999s and one of the rarest production shapes ever made by the company. In fact, I could never quite believe in its existence until Steve sent photos of his—despite its appearance on the George Yale page—thinking perhaps it was something the company intended to put in production, but never carried out when hostilities made it impossible to export their pipes to the US.
Following WWII, pipe production went into high gear at Peterson, just as it did for the other European pipe factories. The familiar pre-war 999 reappears in K&P’s red 1945 catalog, available in the company’s first four post-war lines: the De Luxe (highest), Dublin & London (high), Kapet (standard) and Kapruf (blast):
It was in the distributor’s shape catalog issued around 1947 that Peterson first officially named this shape the “John Bull”:
The “Product Line” (entry-grades) “K,” Shamrock and Donegal Rocky lines had all made their appearance by this time. As production geared up, K&P would continue to expanded its lines, adding the John Bull to a broader spectrum including (in approximate order of quality) the Supreme, Premier, Sterling, Killarney and Auld Erin.
And of course mention must be made of the classic Rogers Imports Shamrock, often seen on the estate market, but not often in the beautiful honey seen here:
And here’s the tenon-mortise detail with the stinger:
The tenon work for Peterson will typically depend on the grade of the line. Using the prices from the 1953 Rogers catalog as one touchstone, neither my $3.50 Shamrock nor my $5.00 Killarney Natural have extensions, while Steve’s $10.00 Premier has a bone screw-in:
It is remarkable to me just how many classic 999s are seen on the estate market, always commanding good prices. Among the mounted lines, the Shamrock seems most frequent (being released in greater numbers than the higher grades), although every once in a while, a precious-metal band comes down the pike, like this one in the 1950s Sterling Silver line from Al Jones’s collection:
999 Sterling Silver line (Courtesy Al Jones)
But it’s far more typical to sight an unmounted 999—remember that sterling and nickel mount pipes were considered somewhat old-fashioned by the 1940s and 50s. Here’s several of Steve’s 999 collection (the Captain Pete author in the upper left)—notice the John Bull Donegal Rocky 999, which (depending on the decade) was either sterling or nickel-mounted but lacked the standard double-bead):
Another thing to note in the photo above and in all of Steve’s photos is the variance in the stem bends, which is actually just a bit maddening. Just a casual glance at this photo reveals at least six different bends. At the tenon end most of these measure about .90 in diameter (23mm), which must make them among the thickest of production mouthpieces. (The nearest to that in my rotation is the Sherlock Holmes Baskerville, at about 0.85 in.) They must have been extraordinarily difficult to bend. I’ve only clenched a few, but my favorites have the little twist at the end of the button, which seems to make them hang more effortlessly. There also seems to be some variance in the width of the button-end mouthpiece–my dark Shamrock is wider than my Killarney. Still in all, it’s a really comfortable pipe in the teeth and in hand.
The 999 is found in Peterson shape charts from the 1950s through the mid-1970s, when it becomes the “XL999” in an Associated Imports brochure from 1976:
I can only make a guess here, but based on the other shapes included on the same line, it would appear in hindsight that Peterson was making a transition. In the 1977 Associated Imports catalog of the following year, the brief-lived new 998 shape and the older 999 appear together:
By 1978, the Associated Imports chart illustrates only the smaller 998 appears:
If you chance across shape 998, then, you can be reasonably certain it was made sometime between 1975 – 79. In 1980, a full-color brochure shows the older 999 in a meerschaum, and then, in 1984, the darkest year in the company’s history, the classic version of the 999 makes its last bow in the company’s tiny down-sizing catalog as the “Large John Bull” (the 998, of course, being the “Small John Bull”):
By the time Hollco-Rohr’s distributor pages appeared in 1987, the Large John Bull was gone and what we may call the Small John Bull (shape 998) had been given the 999 number, which it retains to this day. I know this newest version remains one of Peterson’s top-selling shapes and is widely admired in Pete circles, even though I find myself preferring the older, chunkier version. The Small JB, however, can sometimes approach the sublime, as seen here in its Amber Spigot release a year or so back:
Aside from their very real visual appeal, I think there’s two more ingredients that have made the classic Large John Bull so popular: it’s extremely comfortable in hand and has an exceptionally wide button, spanning between 15 and 17mm, making it a really easy clench between the teeth, especially when the button has the slight downward turn seen in so many of them. In fact, I don’t think there’s another mouthpiece in the Peterson arsenal that beats it, although the “Comfort P-Lip” on the original 301 Systems from the late 1970s equals it.
There’s enough classic John Bulls on the estate market that with a little perseverance and luck, you can usually bag one in a month or two if you’re persistent. And you’ll usually pay only a fraction of the price that similar shapes in one of the fashionable marques like Comoy’s, Sasieni or GBD demand. Maybe someday Peterson will see fit to restore this fine and richly-deserving shape to production, embodying as it does all the best marks of the classic Peterson house style.
Many thanks to Steve Dundish
for sharing photos of his 999 collection
and to Al Jones for sharing his passion & knowledge of the shape.
Well, just out of bed and sitting with the coffee and I think I will fill my 999 Galway before reading. I only have one more in that shape, a Shamrock with fine grain and only one fill. Got it some 30 years ago for Kr 70 and it is still waiting to be smoked. Could this be the day? Thank you Mark. And yes, Al is the GBD man.
So Jorgen, just to be nosy–did you smoke that Shamrock?
thanks for the compliment! you are really kind.
of course I also love your blog !!
This is a rarity: my 999 Kapp-Royal Spigot!!
http://segnalifumo.blogspot.com/2017/02/peterson-kapp-royal-spigot-piu-unica.html?m=0
Kinski, great pipe! And I really enjoy your blog. I just visited one of your recommendations–Rizzi. Some astounding Peterson pipes there!
Again, many thanks, Mark!
Glad you enjoyed it, Tom!
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Very interesting piece on Peterson 999 history. It is a favourite shape of mine and I particularly like the John Bull. Thanks Mark for this write up. Well done.
Thank you, Steve, and thanks for the reposting. I have picked up several readers thanks to your good self, and I do appreciate them. Hoping to read another chapter about my favorite priest, Father Tom, in the not-too-distant future.
Well done Mark! Like GBD, I love how the 999 shape evolved and changed over time. I should note thay my 999 Sterling came courtesy of Steve, or “Mr. 999” as we should call him! My other 999 is a Deluxe with stacked “Made in Ireland” stamping. It is slightly larger on all measurements than the Sterling, and weighs six grams more.
I am not a bit surprised you should have a 999 DeLuxe, Al. I do believe you are as passionate about the shape as I am about the 4 / 309. Interesting about the measurements as well! I wonder whether some of the size measurements weren’t do to which factory the bowl was turned? What I mean is that Peterson in the 1940s and 50s and early 60s could have turned the bowl in Dublin, had it turned for them in France, or (if so stamped) turned in England. My English 309 from the 1950s is enough different to be… Read more »
A handsome pipe. I have a GBD City de Luxe with similar bowl but supporting a saddle stem. I’ve wondered about getting another, tapered stem as I think it would look much better. I like the chunkinees of this Peterson model and the range of pipes in the photo looks fabulous. I would go for a straight or fishtail mouthpiece, though, if I could have a choice. Appreciate the article. I’m learning a great deal about these pipes! Thank you.
It is very interesting to find (looks like) the same pictures on eBay after this post: https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F264038860943
You’re exactly right. Steve has decided to sell his collection. I didn’t want to announce it beforehand, because I had offered to post the available pipes on the blog. I’m going to add a few of his ebay photos as a revision to this post in a day or two, as a matter of fact!
Here is an interesting specimen. A 998 Donegal Rocky (sterling) from 1974. https://www.smokingpipes.eu/pipes/estate/ireland/moreinfo.cfm?product_id=128543 How would that 998 compare to today’s 999? I’ve looked at the measurements of today’s 999 Donegal Rocky on the same website. The older pipe is definitely smaller. Unless I misunderstand what I’m reading above, they should be about the same. Also, that 1974 Donegal has what might be a single beading (as opposed to either none, or the more typical double beading). It’s difficult to tell from the 2 photos whether or not that second line is there, given the rocky (hence the name) finish. In… Read more »
Hi David, good eye, sir. Yes, that 1974 998 should be the equivalent of today’s 999. The beading on the Donegals I’ve seen is either absent, or single, as in this photo. The more I look at that photo, the more I think it’s the old 999 John Bull bowl that’s been blasted and fit to the tapered, slender stem of the typical 998 / 3rd gen 999. It would be helpful, as always, to have the pipes on the table and do a real-life visual comparison.
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Hello, very interesting article, but i can’t find anything about XL939? Or is it just bad stamping? 😀
Hi Ignas, do you mean the XL999? That number isn’t familiar with me, off hand. Post a photo of it, if you have one, and I’ll see what I can find.